Wednesday, November 19, 2008

Grudges

I hadn't listened to The Adam Carolla Show in a long time and so I checked out their website for some podcasts and one of the podcasts caught my eye -- a discussion of a grudge between Dancing with the Stars contestant (and comedian) Jeffrey Ross and another comedian named Sal Iacono (aka "Cousin Sal" or Jimmy Kimmel's cousin). Here's what happened: right before the elimination stage of the dance contest, Ross's friend Sal sends a text message to Ross stating that Ross wasn't going to be eliminated from the contest that night. Sal supposedly has inside information b/c he works for The Jimmy Kimmel Show, a show that is on the same network as the dance show. Ross was ecstatic. He tells his dance partner Edyta Sliwinska that they're safe for another week. As it turns out, Sal was just playing a prank on Ross b/c Ross wasn't safe at all -- he was eliminated that night. Ross took it personally b/c he had been working hard to stay on the show and it meant a lot for him to stay. Ross felt like he was made a fool on national television. On the Carolla show, the host tried to see if he can make peace between Ross and Sal b/c the two are apparently no longer friends. Listen to the podcast here.

The situation made me think about grudges in general. I suppose there's maybe three ways a grudge could end. One possible resolution is that maybe the situation just calls for an apology and the two become friends again. Maybe an apology is all that Ross wants. I think the problem is that Sal doesn't think he did anything wrong. Sal himself says he has nothing to apologize for. That could be the issue: Ross wants an apology b/c he thinks Sal crossed the line. Until he gets one, Ross doesn't want anything to do with Sal. Ross himself said that Sal has to learn right from wrong.

Another resolution is that two people become friends again but only after enough time has passed. "Enough time" could range from weeks to maybe years. By that time, one or both parties will eventually let bygones be bygones and the two become friends again. That's what happened with Dennis Miller and Jay Leno. Miller was miffed at Leno during the "booking wars" on their talk shows and Miller stopped talking to Leno for several years because of what he thought were unfair practices by Leno. Miller eventually buried the hatchet when he was asked by an interviewer, "So a friend hurts your feelings and you're no longer friends with him?" Miller had an epiphany and realized that life's too short to hold a grudge. I'm just paraphrasing what I think Miller said. I can't remember the exact quote.

A grudge can also, well, never end -- the grudge continues ad infinitum ... the friendship ends, basically. This type of resolution, in some cases, may be the best case scenario. For instance, if the friend who has wronged you turns out to be someone who doesn't treat you with respect or if they're flakey or if they are more trouble than they're worth or if they're just plain insane (hehe), etc., oftentimes its best to just cut your losses and not have anything to do with that person. In other words, find better friends. Friends who seemed like they would be friends for life.... well, don't always turn out that way. Sometimes the friendship is unsalvageable even if the two friends had good times in the past. Sometimes its just best to walk away from those "friendships".

Technorati tags: Jeffrey Ross

Labels:

14 Comments:

Anonymous bingskee said...

it scares me to think that grudge can possible break my ties with my current beloved friends...

but i had a few friends that i chose to forget... it wouldnt help any of us to rekindle the relation. we're better off not talking to each other anymore.

11/20/2008 04:08:00 AM  
Blogger Kayni said...

through the years i've learned that there are some people who won't get along, even if they're friends. as for grudges, friendships that don't survived them, aren't meant to be.

11/20/2008 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous cheh said...

Being a straightforward person as I am.Maski pa pabiro,may mga sumasama pa rin loob lol but I don't really give much attention to it.As we always say,we can't please everyone!Grudges are hard to avoid as there are many faces of grudges, all depends upon the situation & attitude ofcourse. I totally agree with bingskee & Kayni Ika nga kung ayaw na nila,di ayaw ko na rin,Ala namang pilitan sa pakikipagkaibigan di ba? ,

11/21/2008 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous TruBlue said...

Grudges comes in different ways. The worst ones are made up conjectures which taints your friend's brains. True friends should not be swayed by such.

Remember that one commenter in Bill's blog who ranted telling Bill to "get your s*it together".
His parents doesn't associate with me anymore ever since my friendly lecture of their son's use of words. They seemed to think I was out of line. Was I? Hell, I wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

Cheers!

11/21/2008 01:50:00 AM  
Blogger tin-tin said...

that's what's difficult when one party doesn't know he had done something wrong

11/21/2008 08:04:00 AM  
Blogger Wil said...

same here, bingskee.

Hey, it's been a while. nice to see you again. :D

Well said, Kayni. :)

cheh, hehe. Depende nga sa pabiro. Minsan its too close to the truth kaya sumasama sa loob. ;-) Sorry for the bad Taglish. LOL

TB, one of Bill's commenter's? Saan na ba si Bill? Blogging pa ba rin sya? hehe. Ah, so you knew that commenter. Well, that's another case of two sides viewing things differently. You saw your talk to him as friendly while they didn't see it that way apparently.

Tin, sayang hindi tau mindreaders, ano? hehe

11/21/2008 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous bw said...

That controversial text suggests "unfair play" or cheating in the first place so to believe abd bet your house on it wasn't prudent. The show was a contest and performance cannot be guaranteed so the text wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

Unfortunately the trust was broken and cannot be repaired easily. It takes a long time for this kind of hurt to heal. I will not openly declare that the friendship is over but will avoid talking him :(

11/22/2008 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous TruBlue said...

I'd like to think Bill dug himself a foxhole sweating out the upcoming result of the Bar Exam, sort of he's in pins and needles every single day, hehe...goodluck to him really and top 10 wouldn't be so bad.

I just abhor parents who wear blinders from the evil things their offsprings commit in life. Don't need friends like them, considering we've known one another for over 30 years. Am still sourrounded by rationalists and pragmatists people.

11/23/2008 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Layad said...

Hehehehe... Looks like ur now an expert on grudges, Wil :D Peace!

Sir TB, u r so right about that kind of parents! Makikipag-away pa talaga kahit nasa mali ang anak. Yay!

I wish Sir BB all the best. Hope he comes out of his foxhole hor hor hor...

11/23/2008 05:06:00 AM  
Blogger Wil said...

bw, listening to the podcast, Ross was saying that Sal should've been supportive of him instead of joking around with him. It's hard to say whether their friendship will end since they've been friends for ten years. But who knows?

TB, bar exam? I didn't even know he took the bar. Good luck to Sir Bill! :D

I suppose some parents will always be supportive of their kids no matter what.

Daphne, I'm just an expert based on what I observe, not from personal experience. Kasi I've never held a grudge. LOL

Nasaan na ba yung meme na I tagged you with? hehe

11/23/2008 10:15:00 AM  
OpenID tanivillamora said...

I agree that time heals all grudges. Ross was angry and hurt and Sal probably thinks the prank is harmless and doesn't understand the work that goes behind that dance number. I had a fight with my good friend once. After a while, di rin namin natiis isa't isa. We forgot about the whole fight. No grudges. That's case to case basis though. I love this friend of mine and I don't know what I'll do if the drift lasted long. Some friendships aren't so lucky.

11/23/2008 10:52:00 PM  
Blogger Wil said...

Tani, as a commenter said, a true friendship will survive the rough times.... through thick and thin. :)

11/25/2008 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous niceheart said...

Based on my observation of the people I know, it's your second resolution that is the most common. I, myself don't usually hold grudges, but there was this one incident in the not so distant past when my feelings were hurt by a family member and I have to admit that I was holding a grudge for quite a while. I couldn't help it. I couldn't talk to her for a while. But it's true that time heals all wounds. And I'm not saying that everything's honky dory now, but I can tolerate talking to her now.

11/26/2008 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger Wil said...

niceheart,, ok, I admit, I have held grudges in the past. hehe. But, yes, your story is familiar to me personally. :)

11/28/2008 07:43:00 AM  

Post a Comment

Links to this post:

Create a Link

<< Home